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Author Topic: Autoextremist rant on chrysler/gm  (Read 881 times)
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« on: October 13, 2008 »

I read this guy every week.  He's pretty smart and doesn't really appear to have any bias concerning GM or Chrysler

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Detroit. The swirling maelstrom of conjecture, rumor and fabrication that’s enveloping the Motor City (aka The Land of Not Good) right now concerning GM and Chrysler has spun completely out of control. So much has been said by so many people who know so little about what’s going on, that it’s truly breathtaking to contemplate. As a matter of fact, I have never seen anything like it in all my years in this business.

With that in mind then, I thought it would be good idea to take a deep breath and talk about what we know first, before we venture into how any future scenarios might play out.

The Cerberus Fiasco.

First of all, as I’ve been warning for quite some time, the Cerberus “miracle” planned for the resurrection of Chrysler was a flat-out disaster waiting to happen. And unfortunately for the people at Chrysler, my prediction is unfolding as you read this. That Cerberus was completely out of their league and unencumbered with the first shred of knowledge or expertise required to turn around a flailing, ailing and deflating American automotive icon is a known fact.

And on top of that, the unbridled hubris that they brought to the table, which deluded them into thinking that they actually could venture into one of the most challenging businesses in the world - at exactly the most crucial juncture in American automotive history - and emerge with a nice big payday in a couple of years, is beyond comprehension.

That Cerberus assembled a “dream team” (at least in their estimation) consisting of Bob Nardelli - a man who was such an abject failure at Home Depot that the company has taken years to recover - and Jim Press, the architect of the modern miracle that is Toyota in the United States today, and “assumed” that they could just throw a switch and it would all be good, makes me question the sanity of the powers that be at Cerberus.

That the Cerberus brain trust was that out of touch and that detached from the reality of the situation is simply scary. There’s really no other word for it. Needless to say, the fact that things didn’t go swimmingly well for the Cerberus “dream team” was no surprise in the least. Assembling a team of alleged all-stars on paper doesn’t automatically translate into a winning performance, and Cerberus proved that timeless adage once again, but with dramatically painful consequences unique to its self-inflicted predicament.

You can read the rest of it here
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2008 »

I don't think he gives chrysler or GM enough credit on their quality.  I also don't think that the auto industry as a whole is in such a dire crisis, everyone is going crazy because of the economy and journalists will look at anything that might be a problem and write about it.  No one calls them out when they're wrong so they get away with it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008 »

He's right that the combined company would just implode under it's own weight.  It's much better to wait until both companies are on an upward path before either starts talking about a merger.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008 »

This is what chrysler gets after years of making sh*tty cars.  The axe is gonna fall hard on them, I think both companies go out of business if the merger happens.  Overall that might be a good thing long term, neither are positioned well to be selling small fuel efficient vehicles.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008 »

This is what chrysler gets after years of making sh*tty cars.  The axe is gonna fall hard on them, I think both companies go out of business if the merger happens.  Overall that might be a good thing long term, neither are positioned well to be selling small fuel efficient vehicles.

I agree with you there.  I haven't even bothered to look at a car made by chrysler.  The trucks are the best out there, but their cars aren't that great.  And a big automaker can't survive on trucks alone, especially with gas as high as it is.  I hope GM doesn't get them because my plan is to buy a Ram 1500 ctd but who knows what would happen if the merger goes through.  I might have to switch to a ferd or toyota.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2008 »

The guy is right, a GM/Chrysler mega conglomerate probably fails under it's own weight.  There would be too many cooks in the kitchen to get anything done.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2008 »

I can't believe how many people think that the only thing of value in the Chrysler line up is Jeep, and even then only a couple jeeps at that.  Some do ackowledge the minivans but it's pretty sad when those are the only things of value to most people.  Don't they realize that Dodge has a lot of value in the Ram and it's cars?  They make a high performance version of every one of it's cars and they're huge in nascar, I don't think dodge goes away in any kind of merger.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008 »

This guy is wrong more often than he's right.  I stopped reading him a while ago.  He puts out interesting theories but he doesn't have a great track record if you know what I mean.
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2008 »

That guy is right on.  Cerberus bit off more than they can chew and now they're hurting for it.  Desperate to basically give chrysler away for a chance to make some money further down the road.  Sad.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2008 »

The guy has been in the industry for 30 years, he's got some pretty good insight.  You can't really argue with what he's saying there.

This guy is wrong more often than he's right.  I stopped reading him a while ago.  He puts out interesting theories but he doesn't have a great track record if you know what I mean.
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